How Neon Underwear Taught My Son the Value of Money
I wrote this and published as a guest post on DadDollarDebt in partnership with my friend EJ about 2 months ago, but am re-publishing it here to ensure all my own readers find it. Read it here or there, drop a comment here or go read the 15+ comments on his site and join the discussion there!
We’ve struggled to teach our oldest son, Rogue One, the value of money. We’ve made attempts at allowances, discussed splitting cash gifts from family into personal/charity/savings, and simply put money away he has received into an online savings account.
While he understands money in a factual sense, he has not yet demonstrated a strong grasp of the effort required to earn money, nor the understanding of the time-value of money or the concept of frugality.
Given that he’s 8-years old (at the time of this writing), none of this is particularly surprising. His parents are educated professionals, and while he grew up as I went through training and my wife through grad school, he’s certainly never been or felt deprived in any way to the point where a lack of money significantly impacted his life.
When he’s made purchases with savings that have turned out to be duds (hello MiP and Chip the useless robots), he hasn’t really felt the opportunity cost of a bad purchase.
On a recent trip to Wal-Mart I decided to try a new tactic.
A Trip to Wally World for Unmentionables
I’ll admit, I prefer Costco. Wal-Mart, with all its corporate ugliness and worker maltreatment, has its place in modern shopping.
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They’re making strides, but given their history of poor treatment of suppliers and workers (and many of their stores simply were painful because of the lighting and colors), I often avoid it.
Sometimes though you just want to need a bunch of random things all at once (think milk, a mop and legos), and sometimes you just want to avoid spending a ton of money.
It turns out that we don’t pay much attention to Rogue Ones clothing — he’s about to turn 9, and has been wearing size 6 underwear for awhile.
He’s thin, so I don’t think he’s been suffering in silence or damaging his body. As he’s never said anything to us, we really didn’t think about it. Until suddenly he mentioned that none of them fit. So we decided it was time for that most fun trip — underwear shopping.
I’m fairly sure if I had girls this would be a more awkward trip for me.
Amazing, Neon, Sweat-Wicking Boxer-Briefs
We walked into the boys undergarment section and he almost ran to the neon boxer-briefs. Not only were they an awesome shade of yellow, they were “performance” underwear and would wick away sweat! They were clearly the ideal purchase.
So we initially discussed utility — what benefit will he get from their sweat-wicking abilities? Was it something he was missing from his existing pairs? Was he going to run faster? Is he secretly Lebron James (who I said could justify them)?
We discussed the value of color — what is the benefit of neon underwear I asked him? Will you be showing it to other people? “No, he replied. Will the color matter if no one gets to see it, if you don’t even see it? “No,” again.
He began to understand the gimmicky aspects of purchases as we discussed how companies try to convince you to buy things you don’t really need.
Can’t Put a Price on Underwear
The fancy ones were over $6 for 3, so buying him a couple of weeks supply — we aren’t cleaning his underwear every week — would cost over $30. That may not seem like much when a single pair of these costs $29, but it seems ridiculous for an 8-year old.
So we turned it into a learning opportunity.
If it costs ~$6 for 3, or $4 for 5, we broke down the unit cost so he could see it was $2/pair for the fancy ones, and 80 cents/pair for the generic ones. Demonstrating the fancy ones cost more than twice as much as the generic ones (which is mostly what he has now).
He’s old enough to do some of that basic math himself, but Wal-Mart helpfully puts not just the total cost of an item, but the unit price for many of them, to help with this.
A child still needs to understand the concept of unit cost — which Rogue One grasps — but it can help with the simple division needed to calculate on its own. We also practiced this for another exciting purchase — dental floss and mouthwash (encouraging oral hygiene is important and difficult at this age).
So I let him pick out the type of floss/mouthwash he wanted, but made him compare brand and generic names and calculate rough unit prices (looking at ounces of mouthwash and yards of floss). When he could see via the unit price Listerine cost 4x the price of generic (but identical) mouthwash, despite similar total prices, it seemed like a light bulb went off.
Experience vs. Objects
On the way out we discussed opportunity cost — in kids terms. We discussed what he would consider more valuable — his toy robots (which he had forgotten about and has even lost pieces), or a trip to the pizza place with video games with his friends.
The toys he can keep for months or years, or he could go to Incredible Pizza a few times with one of his close friends (it has a decent buffet and tons of video games).
If he had to use his own to pick between the robots or the outings with his friends, he would choose his friends. However since Mom and Dad aren’t going to subsidize all those outings (or toys), he could use his own money for them.
Except he can’t, because he has a couple hundred dollars of useless robots in his closet instead.
I am a big fan of this philosophy — not that I don’t buy objects, but I am frugal and very calculating in my purchases. I’ve been a bit like that since childhood, but far more so as an adult spending my own money,
The Enlightenment
Again, it felt like a light-bulb up went off with these discussions, but only time, and repeated lessons, will tell. You can go on The InterWebs and find all sorts of discussions on how to teach your child the value of money.
Children learn in so many different ways that there’s no single correct method. Personalities are different, circumstances are different, and learning styles are different. So I suggest just throwing things against the wall and seeing what sticks.
It turns out that I had forgotten a lesson — attention to detail. We accidentally bought him both small and extra-large underwear — neither were the correct size. So I had to make an extra trip to exchange it for the correct size. Lesson learned.
What are your thoughts on teaching children the value of money? Share below!

Challenging, but essential topic. Philosophically it comes back to the Time is Money (Income), but Money is Time (Saving) dynamic. In reality, although the umbilical chord is severed at birth, how we raise our kids in the language of Developmental Finance and Economics is what truly creates the foundation and launching pad for our offspring to leave the nest without a boomerang in tgeir pocket. Going from “The Bank of Mom and Dad” to “The Personal Bank” is a daily challenge. Right now we are in the late teen phase of this journey with sons headed to college in the fall. We got their “Needs” still. They got their “Wants”. There are jobs out their in the great “Life Energy for Money Exchange” that exist for the purpose of ownership of “Tge Wants”. We got “Tuition and Books”. They got “Beer and Pizza”. Tge greatest gift we hope to give them is a “Debt Free Start to Adult Life”
It would be nice if parents could spell “The” or at least proofread “tgeir” posts!:)
That’s a much deeper way to express my discussion of underwear and child rearing. I appreciate the perspective. The younger ones follow the older one so much that you almost feel like you can get all of them on the right path if the first one is doing well. But that’s too much pressure for the oldest and ignores the differences between the younger ones.
I enjoy you blog, more now that we met at WCI and your personality is not just digital!
Thank you — it was great to meet you as well.
We try to strike a balance on such things. For your point, there truly is no difference between the two in terms of utility. Every once in a while, though, I think you have to let the kids make their own determination on value. Kids value things in different ways than the monetary value. What if a kid, even though he’s the only one who knows about his cool underwear, stands a little taller or feels just a touch more invincible? What if a happy childhood memory is developed when as a grown up, the child looks back and remembers having the coolest underwear ever (and even remembers his dad taking him to pick them out)? I’m not at all arguing against your decision at all. Because in a sense you really never know what things might apply to the examples I just listed. The underwear probably won’t make a difference in ‘the cool factor’ and you can’t pick and choose what turn into long term memories. I’m not saying at all that you made the wrong choice but just putting it out there that we as grown ups need to remember to try to see the world from the eyes of our children sometimes, and there may come a time when it’s not underwear that this could change the outcome. Even if it’s not the best option in terms of value.
Money Beagle that’s a great point and thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Self worth, self esteem, etc are drawn from many things. However as relates to clothing, a huge portion of it is societal expectation and nothing more. It’s possible to look good while not spending tons of money. And in some circumstances you should care a lot about how you look and in others very little. Kids need to be taught that as well as the idea that judging themselves based on if others approve of their shirt or shoes is NOT something to emulate. Dressing well can absolutely make you feel better about yourself, but society a long time ago went down the slippery slope where people are judged on such things. I would rather my kid when he’s an adult buy a $20 shirt and have $80 to use on an experience than $100 on a shirt because it’s trendy. If the purchase is tied to a real need or experience then by all means make the purchase and sometimes you spend a lot to fill an internal or external need. What I want to squash know is the idea that a flashy or expensive purchase being constantly tied to happiness.
Another thought is that I buy basics and extras come from their money. If whiz-bang underwear matters ( and it may) then the extra $0.75 comes from allowance.
As a teenager, I talked my Mom into paying the base price/generic/regular price value and I paid up the stupid price offset to have the special shoes/coat/etc that I wanted. It did lead to understanding how much I was paying to have more than the minimum. Boy was I mad when those Reebok pumps, I payed up for, ripped out the back within a week when I got them caught on something while playing. I was able to get a refund because they failed so poorly, but then I got Mom’s regular shoe suggestion.
Love me some pump up shoes
That’s a good idea as well. He’s currently stuck cleaning the litter box for 2 months —- we got him a pet lizard (leopard gecko) and he couldn’t afford it all, so he’s cleaning litter to make up the difference.
Haha, that’s a funny and entertaining story with a good life lesson. I guess you’re kid is learning from you as much as you’re learning from him too 🙂