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The Financial Folly of the US Healthcare System Part II

The US healthcare system, while flush with cash, is engineered and maintained by political decisions and figures that appear morally bankrupt.  Unfortunately, the only people actually going bankrupt are healthcare consumers without significant financial means or great insurance.

You don’t have to google far to find zillions of stories, but here’s just one from The New York Times.



A few months ago I wrote about the costs, and outrage, I incurred over some of the costs I experienced when one of my kids received “planned” outpatient imaging.

While we’ve used the healthcare system plenty in the past few years, it took a simple clinic visit to spark my ire to the same levels I reached a few years ago.

Old Man Soccer

A few months back I joined a men’s 40+ soccer league (I’m 37, but apparently I qualified based on my fitness level).

During the final match, running full speed to try to control a blocked shot, one of my fingers smashed into an opposing player’s chest.

I’ve broken fingers before, and at first I was worried I did again.  By bedtime it felt good and I thought I escaped the worst.



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Wrong — I woke up with it swollen, bruised, and with poor movement.  I was starting a string of 4 ED shifts, so I pulled out an old finger splint from my nightstand (as I said, not my first broken finger) and went to work.

During one of my ER shifts I surreptitiously used our x-ray fluoroscopy machine to obtain some images. I was worried about a fracture so showed them to an orthopedic surgery resident wandering by.  He examined my finger and x-rays and told me to see an orthopedic hand surgeon.  He was worried I may have torn a ligament.

Less than ideal news.

While I am not a surgeon, my right middle finger is somewhat necessary for work and life.  Also important for giving people the finger.  The prospect of prolonged immobilization (or therapy or surgery) was not comforting.

Walk Right In!

My employer has an orthopedic/sports medicine clinic located not far from my home.  It’s advertised for evaluation of sports or other minor injuries, and calls attention to the availability of on-site x-rays.  Walk right in — no appointment necessary,

So I headed on down on a Saturday morning (Rogue Three in tow) and saw the doctor.  I was hoping one of the orthopedic surgeons would be bored and working on a Saturday, but alas, no.  I did see a highly qualified sports medicine doctor (who has worked with professional sports teams).

The cell phone snapshots I took of the fluoroscopy photos of my finger were not deemed sufficient, so he obtained regular x-rays of my injured finger.  It showed a fracture, but he was concerned about a possible tendon injury (not a ligament).  His specific concern, a central slip injury, could require surgery, and has a very long recovery time.

He said I definitely needed to see an orthopedic hand specialist.

So 2 days later, after a night shift and with 2 hours of sleep, I went back to the same clinic to see the hand specialist.

The swelling had improved, as had my mobility.

He confirmed (using the original x-ray) that I had a fracture. Thankfully the swelling and mobility had improved and he said there was a fracture, but no other injury.  It should heal fine, and I didn’t even need to follow-up unless I felt it necessary.

The Reckoning — The Bill Arrives

I finally received the bills for these visits:

  1. A bill with the charges for both doctor visits.
  2. A separate bill for the cost of the x-ray.

The radiology services offered inside the clinic are not owned/operated by the physician group.  The physicians are employed by a university (same one as me); the radiology equipment/personnel are owned/employed by a separate healthcare system that is affiliated with the university.

This situation is  quite common, and leads to significant confusion.  In some cases, it leads to massive bills.

It’s possible to go to a single place, receive bills from multiple groups, but have one of them be out-of-network for your insurance.  The result is a massive out of network insurance bill when you had no idea and often no choice (such as in some ERs).

This practice is common enough that some states are considering legislation to prevent it.  That is not the case here  — all my bills were from in-network providers.

Which of the first two bills do you think was higher? 

The combined bill for a visit to see a sports medicine specialist (who has provided care to NFL players) and an orthopedic surgeon with special training in hand issues?  Or the two pictures of my right middle finger?

If you guessed the x-rays, you are right!

The combined cost to me for the doctor is $240.  The cost of the x-ray is $280.

Yes, $280.  Not that the $240 was cheap — but you could at least squint your eyes and make sense of it.

Neither includes what will likely be a third bill — a radiologist interpretation of the x-ray — that hasn’t arrived.   While the sports medicine doc and orthopedic surgeon are experienced enough to interpret their own finger x-rays, it’s automatic that a radiologist reviews every image, regardless of whether the ordering doctor needs/wants the review. This is standard pretty much everywhere.

I have decent ability to interpret x rays as part of my training/job, but a well-trained radiologist has expertise far exceeding mine.  While it’s not always helpful — such as in this case — I don’t think we’re going to have the option to decline their review anytime soon.  Most physicians want radiologists review of every image, even if they are comfortable with reviewing images, because it makes our jobs easier in numerous ways.

Cue the Outrage

I know (or thought I knew) based on my experience and knowledge of the healthcare system, that a xray should normally cost under $100, and in many instances under $50.  I knew given where I was obtaining the x-ray, that the cost would be on the high end.  I was still caught off guard by the charge.

If you hadn’t guessed where this was going, I was not happy with the bill.  I hoped it was an error; or perhaps they had charged me a “facility fee” — a common way for clinics that are affiliated with hospitals to upcharge you (by being “attached” or affiliated with a hospital, they can charge you like a hospital).

Nope.  This is the contractually negotiated insurance price between the imaging center and the insurance company for an outpatient finger x-ray.  The actual charge for the x-ray was $380, discounted to $280 because of my insurance.

We’re on a high deductible health plan — in our case the right financial decision (which I’ve written about before).  We haven’t met the deductible, so for now we pay 100% of the costs until we meet our deductible.  So while I know we will get some big healthcare bills, it also means I am price conscious.

I’m fortunate that I have more financial means to absorb such things, but partly because we plan for it.  We max out our HSA every year, and have money saved that can pay for out-of-pocket medical expenses when needed (not an inexhaustible supply, but enough).

I called the billing department, loudly complained, and was told that my concern would be “noted” but not read by anyone because “price is not a valid dispute.”  You can imagine that did not go over well with me.   I went up the chain and spoke to a supervisor.  He also noted my complaint and said he would talk to someone about it, though I’m not sure what if anything will happen.

I also price shopped.

What Does An X-ray Cost?

I obtained three prices: two from stand-alone imaging centers, and one from our biggest competitor, another large healthcare system.

  1. The Big Competitor — I called the imaging centers of another big healthcare system in our area.  They were clueless.  They told me $500, which I knew was b.s., so told them to try again.  Eventually they gave me a number to call, and after being forwarded around, ended up on a price transparency phone line (which is nice, except not advertised anywhere).  Cost?  $115 negotiated w/insurance, but 15% off if paid in full up-front.
  2. Imaging center #1 — all they do is imaging; not part of a healthcare system, so should be cheaper given lower overhead and more efficient in delivering just one type of care.  It took asking a couple of people before they could tell me. Cost? $69, before insurance or self-pay discount.
  3. Imaging center #2 — on the front of their website you can pick the exam and insurance (or self pay) and it gives you the cost.  Immediately.  This is AMAZING because of how foreign this in healthcare.  It’s nearly impossible to figure out the cost of something up-front.  We continue to take this for granted everywhere else in our lives, but continue to be sheep, herded along by the healthcare industry when it comes to medical care.  Cost? $40.  That includes the cost of having a radiologist interpret the x-ray.  It’s almost impossible to get pricing information this easily in healthcare.  Which is the problem.

Please note that for a finger x-ray it’s unlikely there is a difference in quality of the images or radiologist skill across centers.

How Much Is $280?

No, $280 for an x-ray will not break us.  It doesn’t mean it doesn’t impact us.  The extra ~$150-200 we are paying for my xray goes a long way.

Understand — I’m not crying poor.  But being a doctor does not mean I throw money away or just shrug off price gouging.  Every dollar has an opportunity cost.

$200 is a couple weeks of groceries (family of 5, 3 boys).  It’s two really nice date nights with the wife.  It’s my cell phone bill PLUS my electricity bill this month.  It’s the cost of a new car seat for Rogue Three (we just had to buy him two new ones).  It’s our annual donation to a foodbank.  It’s buying food for the ER staff for 4 night shifts (I usually buy pizza for everyone during night shifts once a month).

The opportunity costs are almost certainly much higher for my patients.  For some, $200 may mean avoiding eviction, or the electricity being shut off, or their kids having shoes without holes and a winter jacket, or eating real meals instead of fast food.

Straight to the Top

A few years ago, when perturbed about the cost of an ultrasound for my son, I emailed the hospital president.  I ended up talking with her in-person.

This time I emailed the CEO of the entire healthcare system to express my concern.  Time will tell if the email is ever read.

It was not a complaint about my bill — I can and will pay it (though if they knock a few $ off I won’t mind).

It was an expression of alarm in how our system is a set up to financially harm our patients.

Working in an ER, by necessity I have to order x-rays.  I’m relatively judicious in my use of tests, as I try to be conscientious of unnecessary radiation exposure (a big deal in kids), the conundrums caused by ordering a test you didn’t actually need, and the actual cost to families.  Sometimes you don’t have a choice — sometimes patients need a specific test or medication.

Yet even I was not aware of the x-ray costs at my own institution, which is operated by the same healthcare system that did my finger x-ray.

There have already been studies that demonstrated simply showing doctor’s the cost of a test in many cases will make them less likely to order it, without impacting patient outcomes or quality of care.  When I met my hospital president a few years ago, I discussed whether we could do something like this in our EMR.

She thought it was a great idea, but alas, nothing has come of it yet.  We’re due to have a new EMR being installed in 3 months, so opportunity is again calling.

While I think the CEO may reply to me, I’m not naive. I’m reasonably well-versed in the tenets and history of the US healthcare system, which is for all intents and purposes, broken on purpose.

While that is not the fault of the CEO, he does have influence.  While our system is broken, change will not happen by sitting idly by.  I will maintain some optimism that change is coming, but sometimes you have to get off your butt and push people to make change.

Change also has to happen on the individual level.

I would urge any of healthcare consumers out there to keep these stories in mind — ask your doctor about cheaper alternatives to receiving the same care.  Not every MRI needs to happen at the Ivory Tower (academic hospital) MRI suite — some can be performed at the dedicated MRI imaging center down the street. Not every lab needs to be in the hospital lab that runs 24/7 and also runs esoteric tests you’ve never heard off — plenty of them can be at the dedicated lab down the street.

I’ve already made the decision that going forward I will avoid obtaining my own x-rays or labs at my own institution when possible.

When treating patients in my ER, it’ll continue to make me even less likely to order a test “just in case,” an urge that hits almost every doctor at some point. Sometimes it’s for good reason, but sometimes it just harms the person on the other end.

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25 Comments

  1. Wow. $280 for X-rays does sound like a lot. I might be insulated from this because I work in a fully integrated healthcare system. But then again, I am an extremely low utilizer so I don’t really have a clue how much things cost. You said the US healthcare system is broken on purpose. Do you think it is designed for the purpose of screwing over healthcare consumers and padding the wallets of insurance companies?

    1. Dr. McFrugal — I think it’s evolved into a process run by the insurance and drug/device manufacturers, who of course are for profit companies. Screwing over consumers is as much a by product as it is intent.

  2. I totally agree. The for profit insurance/drug/device companies are a really big and powerful lobby and seem to have their tentacles all over the government. I’m not sure what the best solution is. I do appreciate you raising awareness among physicians to be more judicious when ordering test for “just in case” diagnostic purpose. As you pointed out, it can have a big impact on a patient’s medical bill.

  3. Rogue Dad,

    It always hurts more when you are part of the broken system, both victim and perpetrator. In my case (also in the ED), I can’t tell my patients what a recommended test during their workup will ultimately cost them when they ask, because insurance is so variable with the negotiated rates.

    Over time, the wife and I have shifted our outrage and begun to regard the broken health care system the way we do our kids at times of mischief: “We’re not angry, just disappointed.”

    At my own medical facility, the wife (also an MD) and I ask up front for the cash price for labs, films, even a recent outpatient endoscopy. We find it has consistently been less than the PPO in-network price. We are in a HDHP in order to maximally contribute and invest via an HSA, with a plan for years-delayed reimbursement.

    That means we suck up all but the routine primary care costs for now. Insurance is reserved for catastrophic expenses.

    Thanks for drawing attention to this crisis.

    Fondly,

    CD

    1. Crispy Doc — thanks for stopping by!

      Even though I’m well positioned to absorb healthcare costs from HSA savings, there is a huge opportunity cost to these dollars. Even semi transparent pricing would help the consumer, but since the consumer doesn’t bear the full brunt of it, and because the big healthcare systems would potentially lose $ if they were more transparent, they have no motivation to make changes.

      What we can probably deduce from a pt is their deductible and ideally they know how close they are to meeting it. If on a HDHP with a truly high deductible and they have a low income or are far from meeting it, you know they are going to get burned with almost any ER visit, even w/minimal workup, because of the facility fees (at least at my place those are far more than the MD charges).

      We have about $25k in our HSA at the moment — I’ve used some in the past when cash was unexpectedly tight or early in the year before hitting the deductible. We have not always had monthly cash flow to absorb a $2000 bill if we also had other high expenses, so I’ve used amounts from the HSA for its intended purpose. We have a decent size emergency fund that I probably could have used instead, but I feel like that’s really for true emergencies, and subsidized healthcare with an HSA waiting isn’t really an emergency…

  4. This is so important. I got charged a facility fee of $250 for a blood draw at my hospital. I have refused to pay it. I blocked the collection agency number in my phone. Recently my rheumatologist wanted some labs. I drew them from my office and sent her the result

    1. Hatton — I admire the chutzpah in blocking them.

      I am guessing if I block the clinic/hospital # I may get in trouble given the employment status. I’d rather rage at them within the system — not sure I am willing to go to a collection agency. 🙂

    2. Blood tests are the easiest to get out of system at huge discounts. Google blood tests. I get mine via LEF.org . The blood draw requests for LabCor the same place your Dr may have tests done, but 1/4 the cost. We buy our own tests and take the results to Dr visits and save the 2 trip typical need.

  5. Just getting around to the hatchet job on Radiology. 😉

    Actually, orthopods generally read their own office x-rays (at least in private practice), so you may not have the honor of being billed by the esteemed Radiologist. $240 for a finger x-ray is bordering on criminal, and I say that with the knowledge that I have no clue what the charge/cost (chargemaster, Anthem., UHC, etc.) would be at my institution, nor what the government payers allow.

    1. Lol — it’s not a hatchet job on radiologISTS, just the facility that shoots the x-rays. I’m fairly sure the radiologist bill will only end up around $40 or something. The physician bills are always way lower than the “facility” charges. However I can pretty much guarantee a radiologist will review the film — the system has every incentive to have them do it. In private practice when the radiologist isn’t directly affiliated w/the orthopod it may not make sense to have all of them read, but the university already has systems in place for imaging reviews.

      1. The Medicare allowable for professional interpretation of a finger X-ray (73140) is about $8. I do not imagine that the bill will be any more than $10-11 for commercial insurance in our metropolitan market.

        1. Good to know. Because I just checked. The charge was $36 and it was discounted via insurance to $27.66 (which is what I owe). It’s on the insurance co website but the bill hasn’t shown up yet.

          1. Wow, that is 3+ times Medicare, for the adjusted rate? I guess they have to pay for all of that marble at the Ivory Tower somehow. 😉

            1. What’s just as odd/interesting/crazy is the ins co had to agree to that rate knowing how much higher it is than Medicare or even other negotiated rates.

              I don’t have any marble in my office, but I do have a nice view of the park, which does make me a bit spoiled. Not that sitting in an office is great, but at least there’s a window w/a view when I am there.

  6. Actually I’m surprised that the $280 bill wasn’t higher – I always assume XRays are going to hit me with $350 easy. I’m still smarting over a $600 bill that I (eventually) had to pay many yrs ago. The bill was the “negotiated” rate that was due even though I had walked out of the ER after waiting for a few hours. The facility admitted to me that the “non-insurance” rate was much less as I hadn’t been seen by a physician yet. So yeah, it sucks 🙂

  7. Several years back I had an “old man baseball” knee injury to reconstruct my ACL and PCL. Even though it was a relatively major surgery, I was in at 6 am and out by noon. The bill was more than $30,000. I was blown away. Thankfully I had insurance to cover most of it, but it really put into perspective how one injury can completely bankrupt a family without proper coverage.

  8. You got off cheaply. Pay the bill and be thankful your were in network. In NJ we are dealing with controlling egregious OON billing. Health care costs have been largely shifted to the patient side by the insurance company. This has been a loooong process from HMO’s in 1990’s to cost shifting today.

    Too many patients see the overall bill (10’s of thousands of $$$) and think that is the actual cost of the care. It is not; it is just the bookkeeping way to account for the ultimate cost borne by the insurance company, hospital and physician components. What is very surprising is t he actual amount the physician gets (small) compared to the hospital or facility. (large).
    Signed up and look forward to more of your posts.

    1. Glad you found the blog and enjoy it. :). I have to disagree with your assessment about getting off cheaply. I am aware of the awful OON practices in many places (I reference it in the post), but it’s a separate issue. I made a conscious decision to go in network to my employer run clinic, and was charged 5x what I would’ve been charged somewhere else. The issue isn’t the deductible and how much of the charge I “saw” or that made it to me. If I had a PPO plan with a low deductible I’m still paying that same cost, it’s just hidden in the premiums. It is interesting how much more the facility gets to charge compared to the physician.

  9. Be careful about not ordering X-rays. I am living with the results of a very destructive plasmacytoma that was diagnosed a month later than it should have been because the first doctor I saw was being frugal and declined to order an X-ray, even though I asked for one. I could be walking without assistance right now if he had.

    1. Nichole, I’m sorry to hear about the delayed diagnosis and your illness. I can’t comment in any way on the specifics of your experience.

      I can say that that one of the most difficult portions of medicine is being able to know when a “common” complaint is really something uncommon and requires testing of some kind. I’ve had more families than I can count believe they (or in my case usually their child) needed a specific test or xray or CT or MRI. In many (perhaps most) cases, they do not actually need the test.

      While there is a small degree of leeway in occasionally ordering a test solely at the request of the patient, that should not be a common practice, and overlooks the knowledge and experience of the physician. While I teach trainees to trust their patients and to order what they need to provide good care, I also teach them to trust their training.

      It’s a very difficult balance, and sometimes we unfortunately do not diagnose something at the earliest possible moment. We have to balance testing everyone all the time, and it’s very hard to do.

  10. Good to know you can shop around. When I got some blood work done a few months ago, my mom was alarmed by the costs.

    While I cannot recall the exact amount, she told me it would have been cheaper if I had gotten it done at a place called Labcorp.

    I didn’t shop around for the price because I figured that’s why I save money in my HSA every month smh.

    1. I suppose it depends on your projected expenses. If you are going to hit your deductible and OOP max every year no matter what (because of chronic illness or whatever) then shopping to save $ may not be worth it and you can choose convenience.

      Otherwise you can save a great deal of $ by shopping around a little, because you can cut 30-70% of some tests by doing so, though it’ll take more legwork to do it.

  11. Oh good, somewhere to vent. My daughter took what more or less amounted to a $4500 Uber ride to move her from the ER 2 blocks away (that was a mere $1500 Uber ride) to hospital with a peds unit for observation 10 miles away. (She was & is fine.) Surprise! Not in PPO network, so PPO covered $800 & told us our “reasonable” share is $1200. Surprise! Ambulance co. wants $3700. Thanks for listening.

    1. Sharyn, sorry to hear about the costs of your visit. Even more so than hospitals, medical transportation carries a hidden price tag that can shock people. While I am glad your daughter is okay, the pricing is not. I personally think every ER needs to be “in network” when it comes to patient costs — it’s not something people get to choose in many cases

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